Large Project Multi Selection Bug

Posted by nickniebling on Thu 09 of Jun, 2011 08:10 GMT

Well, now I started using the multi selection feature. I found at least one bug.

First, I was using "Shift" to select a wide range of text with a single mouse click. But what I didn't know, was that the multi selection feature is restricted to one file at a time. So selecting alle strings from two files, will only perferm the desired action (Could be SPACE/Select for translation). Well this might not be a bug - but it's not intuitive ;-)

Secondly, we got a lot of files where blank texts gets "translated" (bound fields where headertext is ""/empty string). So I select all strings in the file holding shift clicking first and last string. Now i hold "Ctrl" and click the strings I want to remove from the selection. But as I click on a string a "deselect" it (removing the blue bagground) it gets highlighted (in a wide selection there is "always" one item thats highlighted/selected above the others - this is the last field you have "touched"). So the bagground-highlighting seems to be working, but if the last item I have click was a "deselect", this will actually be the only item the desired action would be applied to (instead of being the only one not to apply the action on e.g.). This would be a bug for sure..

And last but not least, I all into semantic as well.. Selecting a wide range of strings, I would expect the first string to have the lowest number and the last to have the highest number. We havn't yet gone to the translation part, but I fear my translator will translate "Terms and Conditions" from bottom to top - making it hard for the translator to have a nice flow in the text. But you might got this covered by sorting by how the texts is ordered in the document. Not sure this is a bug - but i fear how this will work out..

Thank you for an overall great tool ... Very powerfull when you learn how to use it :-) Will keep posting my observation :-)

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Posted by nickniebling on Thu 09 of Jun, 2011 08:13 GMT

"CTRL" + "SPACE" = Disable Document
"SHIFT" + "SPACE" = Hide Selected Strings

Personally I think they are too close to each other - Hitting disable document is a little annoying - but i know I just have to think and concentrate more ;-)

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Posted by Phil on Sun 24 of Jul, 2011 21:53 GMT Germany

> "CTRL" + "SPACE" = Disable Document
> "SHIFT" + "SPACE" = Hide Selected Strings
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> Personally I think they are too close to each other - Hitting disable document is a little annoying - but i know I just have to think and concentrate more ;-)

Hi Nick,

I have changed the shortcut to disable the complete file to CTRL-SHIFT-SPACE, which should be harder to hit by accident. This is in version 4.7x.0096.

I have also added some text to the tooltips (and the context menu) to describe the keyboard shortcuts.

Phil

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Posted by nickniebling on Mon 25 of Jul, 2011 11:58 GMT
Again - thank you!! smile
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Posted by nickniebling on Thu 09 of Jun, 2011 08:15 GMT

A little correction:

First, I was using "Shift" to select a wide range of text with a single mouse click. But what I didn't know, was that the multi selection feature is restricted to one file at a time. So selecting alle strings from two files, will only perferm the desired action (Could be SPACE/Select for translation) on one file. Well this might not be a bug - but it's not intuitive ;-)

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Posted by Phil on Sat 16 of Jul, 2011 18:45 GMT Germany

Hi Nick,

Selecting the strings from two files ought to work. It's working for me, at least with the most recent version.

I can reproduce the effect with the StringIDs in the reverse order. In the latest version (4.7x.0093), which I have just uploaded, the selected items are sorted first. This should fix the problem.

Phil

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Posted by Phil on Sun 17 of Jul, 2011 18:37 GMT Germany

Hi Nick,

I have just been looking into the problem with empty strings.

I have found an effect which surprised me. There are two ways of viewing the strings in an ASP page (on in controls on a Windows Form):

  • in a structured list or
  • in a flat list

You can switch between these options in the drop down +- menu (with an icon showing + and - buttons).

In the flat list, the empty strings are not displayed. In the structured list, they are displayed.

From this, I surmise that you are using the structured list. In order not to see these empty strings, I recommend switching to the flat list.

However, I have decided to end the stupid problems caused by empty strings and simply ignore them all. I will have to check for them in quite a few places, so it is not entirely trivial, but I will make this change very soon. There are really no good reasons to translate empty strings, so it makes little sense to show them!

Phil

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Posted by Phil on Thu 21 of Jul, 2011 19:26 GMT Germany

In version 4.7x.0094, empty strings should not be displayed at all.

Phil

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Posted by nickniebling on Sun 24 of Jul, 2011 19:44 GMT

Thank you for adressing our issues (as always)! Really good service!

Looking forward to use the new version with the fixes :-)

Hope you removed empty strings from export as well ;-)

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